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Dive into a captivating conference talk from ShmooCon 2020 featuring "Between Two Moose," where Bruce Potter interviews influential figures shaping the security industry. Explore the career journeys, formative experiences, and perspectives on contemporary security topics of Kiersten Todt, Matt Blaze, and Beetle. Gain insights into cyber risk management, the intersection of technology and public policy, and cloud security. Enjoy a blend of serious discussion and lighthearted moments, including a game of Cork and Towel with the guests. Learn from industry leaders as they share their expertise and experiences in this engaging 53-minute session that closes out ShmooCon 2020.